Congratulations Canada

**Mark** · 05-02-2011, 10:45 PM

Conservative majority!!

Yee haaaa!

**CDNBear** · 05-02-2011, 10:48 PM

**Locutus** · 05-02-2011, 10:51 PM

Good, but all these dicks best be grateful and get to work sans bullshit and arrogance. Because, if not, the next party to run this great country will be a bank-bleeding socialist outfit. We'll be screwed for generations after they rape the economy.

The upsets do my heart good this evening....most excellent.

See ya in October 2015.

**JoeSchmoe** · 05-03-2011, 01:22 AM

Cons increased popular vote by 1.8% to just under 40%. Not any significant increase. So practically the same amount of Canadians voted for them. But they get a majority. Oddly interesting.

Way to go Elizabeth May. Canada's first Green Party member of parliament. Wonderful job!!!

**CDNBear** · 05-03-2011, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe

But they get a majority. Oddly interesting.

Ya, this usual whine comes out every time a party gets a majority.

It's sad and silly.

**dazed&confused** · 05-03-2011, 06:52 AM

Just the way the vote breaks. Ah well how much harm can be done in 4 years unless they really happen to be the Bogeymen they are made out to be in by the far left.

**Coddfish** · 05-03-2011, 06:59 AM

Before I go, I have to admit...what a night!

- The Tories get a majority.
- The NDP becomes the Official Opposition, for the first time.
- The Libs and the Bloc collapse, with both Ignatieff and Duceppe losing their seats!
- The Greens get their first seat, with Elizabeth May's win.

Good job, Canada!

**IdRatherBeSkiing** · 05-03-2011, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe

Cons increased popular vote by 1.8% to just under 40%. Not any significant increase. So practically the same amount of Canadians voted for them. But they get a majority. Oddly interesting.

Way to go Elizabeth May. Canada's first Green Party member of parliament. Wonderful job!!!

But a lot less people voted Liberal. All those 2nd place finishes in 2008 became first place.

And if you insist on looking at the 40% statistic, this means that 60% hate the conservatives. Which is a lot less than the 69% who hate the NDP and the 80% who hate the Liberals and the 97% who despise the Greens. We got the least hated of the 5 parties.

Originally Posted by Coddfish

Before I go, I have to admit...what a night!

- The Tories get a majority.
- The NDP becomes the Official Opposition, for the first time.
- The Libs and the Bloc collapse, with both Ignatieff and Duceppe losing their seats!
- The Greens get their first seat, with Elizabeth May's win.

Good job, Canada!

It was a historic night.

**JoeSchmoe** · 05-03-2011, 07:45 PM

And if you insist on looking at the 40% statistic, this means that 60% hate the conservatives. Which is a lot less than the 69% who hate the NDP and the 80% who hate the Liberals and the 97% who despise the Greens. We got the least hated of the 5 parties.

But those other parties aren't running the government.

40% majority vote to have 54% of the seats is not democratic. It wasn't democratic when previous parties won majorities and it isn't democratic now. The system needs to change. At least in the USA, they have 3 levels of government to keep each other in check. Here, we esentially have one house running the show with all the power in the PMO. The real opposition ("unoficial") is the Supreme Court. They have often kept the power of the gov't in check.

From an interview with Philip Slayton, author of A Mighty Judgment: How the Supreme Court of Canada Runs Your Life. Partisan judges, how the Supreme Court runs our lives?and why it should be an election issue - The Interview - Macleans.ca

The Charter handed that power to these judges and they are not averse to using it. Have they overstepped? That’s a difficult question. I changed my mind as I wrote this book. I began by thinking you have nine people not elected by anybody, they can’t be kicked out, they work behind closed doors, this is not a good thing, this is not democratic. Then I realized the only opposition we have to a very powerful executive branch, an increasingly autocratic executive branch, is the Supreme Court. The judges on that court are the only people who can decide, ‘You can’t do that.’ They are the real opposition to government in this country. And as such, they are very valuable and important.

**IdRatherBeSkiing** · 05-04-2011, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe

But those other parties aren't running the government.

40% majority vote to have 54% of the seats is not democratic. It wasn't democratic when previous parties won majorities and it isn't democratic now. The system needs to change. At least in the USA, they have 3 levels of government to keep each other in check. Here, we esentially have one house running the show with all the power in the PMO. The real opposition ("unoficial") is the Supreme Court. They have often kept the power of the gov't in check.

While we are at it, lets make a couple of other changes too.

EEE Senate
Replace GG with elected President
remove ties to monarchy

And then switch to proportional representation. Parties provide list of canidates and we all vote for the party. The pop vote is converted to seat counts and the first N of each party gets elected. Gets rid of requirements for having to have 4 seats in PEI and other such nonsense. One person one vote. None of this east vs. west nonsence either. But not the last change without the first ones. I think its been pretty clear with 5 elections in 9 years that minority parliments don't really work well here.