Christian and Islamic comparison

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Relationship with Islam
See also Christianity and Islam
See also Christian view of Muhammad
Islam shares a number of beliefs with Christianity. They share similar views on monotheism, judgment, heaven, hell, spirits, angels, and a future resurrection. Jesus is acknowledged and respected by Muslims as a great prophet. However, while Islam relegates Jesus to a lesser status than God — "in the company of those nearest to God" in the Qur'an, mainstream Christianity believes quite firmly and without question that Jesus is God, one of the three hypostases (persons) of Christianity's Holy Trinity, equally God as are the Father and the Holy Spirit.

The religions both share a belief in the virgin birth of Jesus, his miracles and healings, and that he ascended bodily into heaven. However, Jesus is not accepted as the Person of the Son within the Trinity by Muslims, except in the sense of being someone loved by God. They believe only in God as a single entity, not as the Trinity accepted by the vast majority of Christians. Neither do Muslims accept Jesus's crucifixion. Since Muslims believe only in the worship of a strictly monotheistic God who never assumed human flesh, they do not accept the use of icons, and see this as shirk (idolatry). Muslims were the first instigators of iconoclasm and their conquests caused the iconoclasm in the Byzantine Empire. For the same reason, they do not worship or pray to Muhammad, Jesus, or any other prophets; only to God.

Adherents of Islam have historically referred to themselves, Jews, and Christians (among others) as People of the Book since they all base their religion on books that are considered to have a divine origin. Christians however neither recognize the Qur'an as a genuine book of divine revelation, nor agree with its assessment of Jesus as a mere prophet, on par with Muhammad, nor for that matter accept that Muhammad was a genuine prophet.

Muslims, for their part, believe that parts of the Gospels, Torah and Jewish prophetic books have been forgotten, misinterpreted, or distorted by their followers. Based on that perspective, Muslims view the Qur'an as correcting the errors of Christianity. For example, Muslims reject belief in the Trinity, or any other expression of the divinity of Jesus, as incompatible with monotheism.

Not surprisingly, the two faiths have often experienced controversy and conflict (an example being the Crusades). At the same time, much fruitful dialogue has occurred as well. The writings of superlative Catholic theologian Thomas Aquinas frequently cite those of the Jewish philosopher Moses Maimonides as well as Muslim thinker Averoes ('Ibn-Rushd).

On May 6, 2001, Pope John Paul II, the first pope to pray in a mosque, delivered an address at Omayyad Mosque in Damascus, saying: "It is important that Muslims and Christians continue to explore philosophical and theological questions together, in order to come to a more objective and comprehensive knowledge of each others’ religious beliefs. Better mutual understanding will surely lead, at the practical level, to a new way of presenting our two religions not in opposition, as has happened too often in the past, but in partnership for the good of the human family."

In countries dominated by Islam, Christians typically practice their faith under severe restrictions. Proselytizing Muslims is often a criminal act, and any Muslim who converts to Christianity would likely face severe censure from family and friends, if not also legal repercussions.

This was a post Rom posted in Pagans but I thought it was worth a discussion of its own.

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On May 6, 2001, Pope John Paul II, the first pope to pray in a mosque, delivered an address at Omayyad Mosque in Damascus, saying: "It is important that Muslims and Christians continue to explore philosophical and theological questions together, in order to come to a more objective and comprehensive knowledge of each others’ religious beliefs. Better mutual understanding will surely lead, at the practical level, to a new way of presenting our two religions not in opposition, as has happened too often in the past, but in partnership for the good of the human family."

I LOVED that man, he REALLY tried to think outside the box.

[Durgan]

These cartoons upset the Musliims. http://waghei.notlong.com When any religion advocates stupidity they must not be tolerated.

The world is improving the Roman Catholic Church burned at the stake about 350,000 men, women, and children from about 1492 to sometime in the 18th century. This after some tortures on the rack, thumbscrews and other pleasantries that make the USA waterboarding appear pleasaant. All in the name of religion-the Christian Religion.

There is little differnce between any religion as to dishing out misery for people. All must be kept in check by the secular authorities. Any religion is only benign if controlled.

[Mark]

The world is improving the Roman Catholic Church burned at the stake about 350,000 men, women, and children from about 1492 to sometime in the 18th century. This after some tortures on the rack, thumbscrews and other pleasantries that make the USA waterboarding appear pleasaant.

Hey ITN, Selfactivated, have you ever waterboarded anyone?

Something to consider here Durgan, when making sweeping statements like the one I underlined in the above qoute, it completely deflates the point you are trying to make.

M

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These cartoons upset the Musliims. http://waghei.notlong.com When any religion advocates stupidity they must not be tolerated.

The world is improving the Roman Catholic Church burned at the stake about 350,000 men, women, and children from about 1492 to sometime in the 18th century. This after some tortures on the rack, thumbscrews and other pleasantries that make the USA waterboarding appear pleasaant. All in the name of religion-the Christian Religion.

There is little differnce between any religion as to dishing out misery for people. All must be kept in check by the secular authorities. Any religion is only benign if controlled.

As more and more muslims mingle in the west the more moderate tolerable side to Islam is evovling . Not unlike christianity.
Look at dubai right smack in the mid east.....

It's a process....Fight the terror, leave the evovlement to thier own.

[Durgan]

Hey ITN, Selfactivated, have you ever waterboarded anyone?

Something to consider here Durgan, when making sweeping statements like the one I underlined in the above qoute, it completely deflates the point you are trying to make.

M

Your conclusion eludes me, but that is nothing new with many of your posts, but you appear to have some problem with the practice of waterboarding, which is a White House sanctioned method of interrogation. Don't tell me you have never heard of this disgusting practice?

You taking umbrage at the underlined piece with the comment that it is a sweeping statement, indicates lack of knowledge on your part. The stupid statement that it deflates from my point, assuming I had a point is ridiculous.


I have evaded some of your previous posts, but now you have crossed the line, and I shall avoid anything you post, and please grant me the same consideration, since I am convinced you have nothing concrete to improve a post, or more likely lack sufficient world knowledge and experience to comment in any meaningful manner intelligently.

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i sort of thought it was something like wake boarding...honest....

what do you call waterboarding....

and by the by ...lil over the top cause someone doesn't agree with you......

[CDNBear]

Your conclusion eludes me, but that is nothing new with many of your posts, but you appear to have some problem with the practice of waterboarding, which is a White House sanctioned method of interrogation. Don't tell me you have never heard of this disgusting practice?

I've heard of it, along with about a thousand other types of interrogation.

Even practiced a couple...effective they were.

Long live the man that has the ablity to set aside his humanity, so that you won't have to, long live the man that sets aside his morals, so that you may live long.

You taking umbrage at the underlined piece with the comment that it is a sweeping statement, indicates lack of knowledge on your part. The stupid statement that it deflates from my point, assuming I had a point is ridiculous.

So you're actually admitting you have no point?

That you seek not to discussion, but instead, just inflame, infuriate and agitate?

In other words, your a troll?

I have evaded some of your previous posts, but now you have crossed the line, and I shall avoid anything you post, and please grant me the same consideration, since I am convinced you have nothing concrete to improve a post, or more likely lack sufficient world knowledge and experience to comment in any meaningful manner intelligently.

You've evaded many of mine and I would make mince meat out of the majority of your arguements, whines and tripe, with not only my worldly travels, but years upon years of real time, real life experience.

I don't think you can rise to his or anyones challenge, when we differ in opinions.

It's all your way or the hiway.

Great...carry on...as you were.

[Mark]

Your conclusion eludes me, but that is nothing new with many of your posts, but you appear to have some problem with the practice of waterboarding, which is a White House sanctioned method of interrogation. Don't tell me you have never heard of this disgusting practice?

You taking umbrage at the underlined piece with the comment that it is a sweeping statement, indicates lack of knowledge on your part. The stupid statement that it deflates from my point, assuming I had a point is ridiculous.


I have evaded some of your previous posts, but now you have crossed the line, and I shall avoid anything you post, and please grant me the same consideration, since I am convinced you have nothing concrete to improve a post, or more likely lack sufficient world knowledge and experience to comment in any meaningful manner intelligently.

First of all, the Thanks I gave you was sincere. I do appreciate your reply and although you construed my reply to you as a slight when it really was not. I was merely pointing out that when you make sweeping statements like USA Waterboard is kind of like saying All Blacks Loot or all Natives are Drunks or all Asians can't drive... Errr, okay I'll give that last one.

You seem like a very angry young person and I actually share some of your concerns, but to say i am uneducated about world. Well tha's where you crossed what Moammar Khadafi called the line of death

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Listen up there Poindexter, I've probably got more worldly wisdom on the souls of my feet than you have experience in the vastness of your web surfing.

If you don't like what I have to say feel free to put me on ignore, but don't ask me to overlook your inflammatory, uneducated, incindiery statements.

This is a forum of discussion and often discussion is opposing, but it is also a community based on the idea of building bridges between Canadians and Americans.

Your aim here seems quite pointless.

Your Scope of the matter is miniscule and if you don't like it here why don't you take a flying leap at a rolling donut.

By the way, your dog avatar, represents your idiotic points.

YIP YIP YIP

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Lightweight
M

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[QUOTE=CDNBear;67078]
Long live the man that has the ablity to set aside his humanity, so that you won't have to, long live the man that sets aside his morals, so that you may live long.



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Thats some pretty heavy poetty to describe reality ya got there Bear.

I hear ya.